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		<title>By: Predictive Analytics: 8 Things to Keep in Mind (Part 4) &#171; Amaresh Tripathy&#39;s Blog on Information &#38; Decisions</title>
		<link>http://www.indiangeek.net/2009/11/16/tools-dont-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-2713</link>
		<dc:creator>Predictive Analytics: 8 Things to Keep in Mind (Part 4) &#171; Amaresh Tripathy&#39;s Blog on Information &#38; Decisions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read this interesting post from Sijin describing his journey to master a video game (emphasis added by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rahul</title>
		<link>http://www.indiangeek.net/2009/11/16/tools-dont-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-2697</link>
		<dc:creator>Rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You conclude you are as productive using Visual Studio as the people using vim/emacs. You accuse vim/emacs users as the people who only have known vim/emacs(paraphrasing from your first-editor quote). Seriously, what is there to know about you Visual Studio which can&#039;t be known in under an hour? And Turbo C++? I would rather write in edit.exe. Oh, and this about &quot;vim being the first editor&quot; from someone who admits not knowing anything other than Visual Studio(if there is anything to know about it). Compared to your brain-dead visual studio/eclipse, it takes time to become productive in vim/emacs, and it&#039;s time well spent. Your one day stint is never going to cut it. I can see your next post about python being a bad language coz you spent 1 day of your precious time and weren&#039;t able to figure out where is the visual designer for python where you can draw your cute windows forms and double click on them to write the event handling code.

Now don&#039;t go about making claims about vim/emacs being show off things and no real projects using them. There are many devels in top notch companies who use it out of choice(Google, Yahoo, Amazon to name a few) and there are projects of significant size which have been done totally on vim/emacs. Yahoo! search is one of the projects where majority of the devels use vim/emacs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You conclude you are as productive using Visual Studio as the people using vim/emacs. You accuse vim/emacs users as the people who only have known vim/emacs(paraphrasing from your first-editor quote). Seriously, what is there to know about you Visual Studio which can&#8217;t be known in under an hour? And Turbo C++? I would rather write in edit.exe. Oh, and this about &#8220;vim being the first editor&#8221; from someone who admits not knowing anything other than Visual Studio(if there is anything to know about it). Compared to your brain-dead visual studio/eclipse, it takes time to become productive in vim/emacs, and it&#8217;s time well spent. Your one day stint is never going to cut it. I can see your next post about python being a bad language coz you spent 1 day of your precious time and weren&#8217;t able to figure out where is the visual designer for python where you can draw your cute windows forms and double click on them to write the event handling code.</p>
<p>Now don&#8217;t go about making claims about vim/emacs being show off things and no real projects using them. There are many devels in top notch companies who use it out of choice(Google, Yahoo, Amazon to name a few) and there are projects of significant size which have been done totally on vim/emacs. Yahoo! search is one of the projects where majority of the devels use vim/emacs.</p>
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		<title>By: Today's read: Tools don't matter &#124; Complete Coding</title>
		<link>http://www.indiangeek.net/2009/11/16/tools-dont-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-2693</link>
		<dc:creator>Today's read: Tools don't matter &#124; Complete Coding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin Rodrigues</title>
		<link>http://www.indiangeek.net/2009/11/16/tools-dont-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Rodrigues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would read in awe when programmers mentioned that they would use emacs/vim for their programming tasks and much more. While I have worked with those, my career mainly has involved IDEs like Visual Studio or Eclipse or editors like gEdit. It&#039;s good advice to believe in your own experiences rather than some posts which mention tools in which the poster is comfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would read in awe when programmers mentioned that they would use emacs/vim for their programming tasks and much more. While I have worked with those, my career mainly has involved IDEs like Visual Studio or Eclipse or editors like gEdit. It&#8217;s good advice to believe in your own experiences rather than some posts which mention tools in which the poster is comfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: Sk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mastering Vi was the single best thing that improved my programming.</description>
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		<title>By: Tools matter &#8211; Another guy named Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tools matter &#8211; Another guy named Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Giorgio Sironi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giorgio Sironi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without attribution? There is the link...
However, what I really like about going to the command line is that in Unix you have small tools that do one job, and do it well (aka the Unix way). You can connect trough their universal plain text interface in O(e^n) ways to perform different jobs, and it&#039;s something I could not do with Visual Studio or Eclipse. In fact, I liked a bit netbeans since it used the subversion command line tool instead of trying to integrate everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without attribution? There is the link&#8230;<br />
However, what I really like about going to the command line is that in Unix you have small tools that do one job, and do it well (aka the Unix way). You can connect trough their universal plain text interface in O(e^n) ways to perform different jobs, and it&#8217;s something I could not do with Visual Studio or Eclipse. In fact, I liked a bit netbeans since it used the subversion command line tool instead of trying to integrate everything.</p>
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		<title>By: chris Keene</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris Keene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice gaming analogy - once you master the game, the tool you use doesn&#039;t matter. 

Reminds me of the gamers who make it a point of completing every game with fists as their only weapon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice gaming analogy &#8211; once you master the game, the tool you use doesn&#8217;t matter. </p>
<p>Reminds me of the gamers who make it a point of completing every game with fists as their only weapon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Fernandez</title>
		<link>http://www.indiangeek.net/2009/11/16/tools-dont-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-2531</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not use images from XKCD with attribution. You are breaching copyright.</description>
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		<title>By: Turbo Pascal Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.indiangeek.net/2009/11/16/tools-dont-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-2530</link>
		<dc:creator>Turbo Pascal Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another one with &quot;DOS background and Turbo Pascal&quot;. 
However, before that was Turbo Pascal on CP/M machines. And before that ZX Spectrum.
Today I still love Pascal. Why? Easy to write and easy to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another one with &#8220;DOS background and Turbo Pascal&#8221;.<br />
However, before that was Turbo Pascal on CP/M machines. And before that ZX Spectrum.<br />
Today I still love Pascal. Why? Easy to write and easy to read.</p>
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